In this episode we dive into your questions, get cozy with cannabis terms and take a swim in terpene science!
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Transcript
[INTRO MUSIC: “Heady Days” by Magic in Threes]
Miranda:
Welcome to The Heady Conversations with Scott and Miranda.
Scott:
Hope you all have had a great week. It's been a little cold here in Baltimore winter has definitely settled in for sure.
Miranda:
She definitely look looks like she's settling in today.
Scott:
Yeah, we're expecting some more wintry mix.
Miranda:
Which has always seemed to get here. [laughing]
Scott:
Everybody's, Yeah, we're right on that freezing line here and kind of Central Maryland. Were right on the water on the one side which warms up and then the mountains on the other side, which the cooler air comes in from and yeah, we get that that fun stuff.
Miranda:
Yeah-
Scott:
The slain, sleet. Snow, whatever...
Miranda:
Snain...
Scott:
All the different. everything mixed together is kind of what we get around that.
Miranda:
It's it's pretty for like five minutes, and then it goes away.
Scott:
Yeah, hopefully. Luckily. I mean, I think it's supposed to be warm tomorrow. But anyway. Thank you all so much for the support so far.
Miranda:
Absolutely. It's been a great, great week for us.
Scott:
Yeah. I mean, really, you're, you're making us feel good, folks. Feedback has been fantastic. Thank you to everyone who sent in comments or questions, which we're going to be getting to here shortly. But yeah, thank you so much, folks. You know, we are available on, I think most of the major platforms at this point...
Miranda:
iTunes, let's see, audacity [mistakenly laughs], not Audacity, audible. So iTunes, Audible, Google, Spotify-
Scott:
GIRL, THE AUDACITY! [Laughs]
Miranda:
Anchor FM. I think Apple is still doing its thing.
Scott:
Yeah, yeah,
Miranda:
It's getting there.
Scott:
If if there's something you use to listen to podcast, and you haven't found us on it, please reach out to us, let us know. And we will do our best to remedy that situation. But if nothing else, you can always find us definitely for sure. On anchor and Spotify, because that's what we used to do the show.
Miranda:
Both are completely free to listen to us on.
Scott:
Absolutely. Yeah, there's nothing you don't even have to download it. You can just stream through the website or whatever. Yeah, there's there's no, no fee, we are for free. So yeah, thank you again, we really appreciate it. You know, share, like, comment. Keep participating. Thank you so much.
Miranda:
Yeah, we're here for you to answer your questions to help you along your journey and to talk about ours.
Scott:
Right, for sure. And the journey that we're talking about right is of course, medical cannabis.
Miranda:
Scott:
Right. That's where we are located. If you are located in a state that doesn't have a medical program, or adult use program, yet, it's probably on the way, most states at least seem to at least be talking about it at this point. But yeah, what we talk about here is always of course, based in our experience and our knowledge, which is as medical cannabis patients in Maryland and medical cannabis professionals here in Maryland.
Miranda:
100%.
Scott:
So, with that being said, one of the questions I think we got from a few different people this week, is how do I become a patient? Of course, that's going to vary depending on your state where you're located. But what we can speak on is how it works here in Maryland and through looking around the country at some of the different programs this week, to look at other things like legislation and equity and other things that I was reading up on. It looks like most states are about the same.
Miranda:
Yeah. I would speak to that. Um, I've gotten a couple of questions this past week from people in other states who are looking to get their certification, in medical states and have found the websites daunting as we, as we do. As I was just speaking to Scott about my experience with the with getting my medical certification in the state of Maryland, was very daunting to me because I am not tech savvy. I am not super good with computers or technology in general. So I actually went to an event that helped me get my medical card where I they went through the entire process online with me took my picture and I saw a doctor all in one. Go. So mine was fairly seamless. That is not the general
consensus how people feel about getting their patient...
Scott:
I feel like in my experience, it's probably been about 50/50. Like, I'd say, probably half the people that I talked to are like, oh, yeah, it was pretty easy. You know, I just went and, you know, applied on the site and got my patient number. And then, you know, I knew this guy that was a doctor, or my buddy, who was already a patient gave me the name of the doctor that took care of him. And it was start to finish, you know, six, eight weeks, whatever. And then I was a patient, and then the other half of the people, too, seem to have the total opposite experience where, you know, whether it was negative experience with the website itself or...
Miranda:
Not having the correct photo.
Scott:
Yeah, right. I think I mentioned that last time where the passport style photo can be an issue for some people, or they had issues with maybe the doctor that they originally tried to certify through was unreliable or didn't get them the allotment or, you know, whatever, that they had thought that they were signing up for.
Miranda:
Definitely.
Scott:
So yeah, it definitely seems to be a mixed bag where it's, it's almost a roll of the dice with what kind of experience you're going to have.
Miranda:
Yeah, and the other thing that I'd like to highlight, and I've heard this from a lot of people is that quote, unquote, my doctor will not prescribe me cannabis. That's why there are cannabis doctors...
Scott:
Right.
Miranda:
So you don't have to go to your specific physician to get your cannabis prescription. You go to a cannabis doctor for that.
Scott:
Yeah, which I know might seem counter intuitive. Because in my opinion, you do want to be open and honest with your physician, if at all possible, if you're in a situation where you've got a relationship with your physician, where you feel you can be about your drug use, because they're, you know, they need to have all the information they can possibly have and treat you for whatever you're seeing them for. So, personally, I've always been open and honest with my physicians when it comes to my drug use. But yeah, I definitely feel like that's an important thing.
Miranda:
Yeah. Whereas, I have had the exact opposite experience that Scott has where I've had to keep my cannabis use completely under my hat. And because my doctor did not approve or had some sort of feeling about me medicating with a plant instead of a synthetic alternative.
Scott:
Right. But if you find yourself in that situation, good news is there are cannabis doctors who are out here to kind of bypass that traditional physician and, and get you the medicine that you hope and think will be, you know, successful for you. So yeah, go to the website, in whatever state you're in, you know, apply for your patient number, once you get that patient number, whether it's through your physician, if they are a qualified certifying physician in your state, or a Canna doc, which you can find through any number of avenues, you know, you can contact a dispensary and ask them if they have any information regarding doctors that you could see. You could probably go to your local head shop, and probably, you know, see if they have any, like flyers or business cards for any doctors that are involved in certifying patients. You know...
Miranda:
And then, you know, there's the good old fashioned Google, because Google will give you a list. Absolutely, a mighty list.
Scott:
Yeah, I am sure that if I typed Baltimore, cannabis, doctors into Google right now there would be no shortage of information that pops up.
Miranda:
Definitely.
Scott:
Yeah. I mean, you can you can probably expect to pay anywhere between like 50 and...
Miranda:
$200.
Scott:
Yeah, I've I've heard some ridiculous quotes before, which, you know, I guess it's all subjective. And to me personally, it depends on how much information I feel like your provided.
Miranda:
I feel like it should be contingent on that.
Scott:
Right. Right. Yeah. If somebody is just listening to a list of your symptoms, and then going Yeah, sure. I think cannabis works for you. Right, you know, and and signing off for you, then that's one thing. It's another thing if somebody listens to your list of symptoms, and then says, Yeah, I think Cannabis would be good for you, you know, maybe you don't want to smoke because you mentioned you have asthma. So you might want to look into trying edibles first or you know, alternative delivery methods.
Miranda:
Yeah, for sure. Um, my first doctor essentially looked at me said, okay, you've got these things cool. pushed it right through, right. My second doctor that I now have that I adore, has spent copious amounts of time on the phone with me on telehealth calls. And, honestly, I mean, I think I spent $100 on my recert, but he's always there for questions. I can call him and ask him for the name of a doctor who I can see who I can be honest with about my cannabis use. So it has been super helpful.
Scott:
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's all absolutely relative to what you can afford, and what's available to you. I know there are a lot of providers do offer like military discounts, sometimes even free certification for qualifying veterans or people in, like the health care industry or things like that. I've seen lots of different-
Miranda:
Or even medical assistant programs.
Scott:
Right. Yeah, yeah, I think you mentioned...
Miranda:
Well, the State of Maryland, when you sign up for your patient ID card, they waive the fee for veterans and Maryland, Maryland Medical Assistant card holders. So all you need is your Veteran Affairs ID or your red, white, red and white medical assistance card from from the state.
Scott:
Which is fantastic. Yeah, but you do those things. You know, there may be a passport photo involved. As I mentioned, on the last episode, the I just downloaded an app for that I just literally went on the you know, the Google Play Store or whatever. And typed in, you know, free passport photo. And it gave me three or four different options. The first one that I downloaded worked for me, just take your picture up against a white background. Don't be wearing any sort of like scarf or coat or anything like that.
Miranda:
Don't smile.
Scott:
Yeah, don't suppose many of us have a problem following now. And anyway. But yeah, should be fairly straightforward for you. And then, you know, hopefully, you apply for your, I know, here in the state of Maryland, it can take quite a while to get the physical card. But once you give your information to a certifying physician, you are actually good to go.
Miranda:
Yep.
Scott:
You just take a state issued or government issued valid photo ID to the dispensary with your patient number that you've been given by your your certifying physician. And you don't actually have to wait, a lot of people seem to get confused by that. You don't have to wait for the physical card to come in the mail. Because sometimes Maryland that can take quite a while. I've seen some crazy months. Yeah. I just saw one online the other day where somebody had said, because basically they were telling people like, don't freak out. I was freaking out. And it just showed up. So Right. Yeah, that physical card can take quite a while. But as soon as you have that certification from your caregiver, you're good to go. Just taking your like I said government, you know, current valid photo ID and and you're ready to rock.
Miranda:
Yeah. And y'all, you will do that on the MMCC Website.
Scott:
Yeah, if you're here here in Maryland. MMCC is the certifying government body and One Stop is the name of the the website that was launched. I guess...
Miranda:
Last summer.
Scott:
Was that when it was..
Miranda:
Last summer.
Scott:
Yeah, it's been. It's had its issues. Some days are better than others. You know, there have been days where dispensaries have had to shut down because he MMCC websites is...
Miranda:
Not working...
Scott:
Not functioning and...
Miranda:
You can't verify a patient, you can't see patients.
Scott:
Right? It can be very frustrating. So but that is what we all have to deal with. So that's that's how you do it. Folks. If you have any specific questions about your individual state, you know, we're only familiar with Maryland, but we'd be happy to help you look into research, what have you doing whatever you need to do wherever you are, if you're interested in becoming a patient.
Scott:
So that was one of the that was one of the big questions we got this week. I know one of the ones that I got from several people as well. was about just a kind of a glossary of terms. Like, What are you all talking about when you're talking about cannabis? You know, obviously, some things are kind of specific to medical cannabis. Some things are just general cannabis use and knowledge terms. But we thought we would go through, you know...
Miranda:
Just a list.
Scott:
Yeah, a list of those for you. Just so you know, what we're talking about when we talk about these things. If there's, you know, ever a term that we use the your you've got a question about, please feel free reach out, you know, we're happy to explain ourselves whenever you feel like you would benefit from additional information.
Miranda:
And just to circle back real quick, I will put the steps on how to get your MMCC card on the blog, which is at www.theheadyconversations.com
Scott:
Nice! Yeah, super cool.
Miranda:
So it'll be there for your reference.
Scott:
And yeah, the the link to email us is there as well. And of course, you can always reach out on Insta or what have you. So yeah, let us know if you have any, any specific questions there. But yeah, getting going on kind of the the glossary of terms in relation to a Medical program. I think we just mentioned...
Miranda:
Allotment. Yeah, allotment is right. So when you hear the word allotment, that means literally just how much cannabis, you're allowed to purchase in any given timeframe.
Miranda:
Yes. And in Maryland, it is a rolling 30 Day allotment. So what you purchase on the first of the month will be returned to you on the first of the next month, it is not, you get 120 grams, which is generally the starter allotment of flower at the beginning of the month. And once you hit, you know, once you go through that, it's not coming back until that first time that you made that purchase.
Scott:
Right? I personally try to never purchase too much at once. Even when places are having big crazy sales, I still tend to kind of purchase in chunks. So I'll like I'll purchase my edibles for the month, maybe. And then you know, a week or two later purchase a couple eighths or you know, a pack of pre rolls or whatever to get some flower. And kind of keep it rotating like that. So I've never really getting more than, I don't know, probably 10, 12, 14 grams at a time.
Miranda:
14 At least...
Scott:
Yeah..
Miranda:
Or at the most.
Scott:
Yeah, with you know, concentrates or whatever mixed in.
Miranda:
Cuz you also don't want your flower to get old and smell like hay. Which we'll get to that later on.
Scott:
Nobody wants that for sure. Cannabis does stay for quite a while, you know, if you keep if you keep your flower in a dark glass or like stainless steel, whatever metal container in the dark, then it'll stay fresh for quite a while, you know, but I tend to tend to not try to keep it around for more than--
Miranda:
I need to?
Scott:
You know, me, I like to taste my way through the menu. So, I tend to, I tend to have a lot of different variety at a time, not necessarily a great quantity, but a lot of different little bits of different things that I'm kind of hoarding and holding on to. Because I find specific strains that I like for kind of specific circumstances or whatever, you know.
Miranda:
Yeah.
Scott:
But yeah, I've never personally come up against a situation where I've run into maxing out my allotment. But I know plenty of people who have it can be really easy. If you you know run into a bad pain situation or emotional situation. Yeah, just need mood boost and distraction and relief.
Miranda:
I feel like around the holidays, people generally get into the jackpot with their allotments. And that's just been my experience as cannabis professional and working with patients that there comes that time where it's like December 23rd and they've got like 1.5 grams left on their allotment.
Scott:
Right.
Miranda:
Because well, it's the holidays and we all know how that goes.
Scott:
Stress, anxiety...
Miranda:
It's a lot.
Scott:
Yeah, familial responsibilities, what have you. But yeah, that's that's your allotment. That's what your allotments all about.
Miranda:
All right let's go on to blunts!
Scott:
Yeah, so a blunt is a tobacco based, you know I think that's kind of the distinct that's what I think of is...
Miranda:
Yeah, that's what I think.
Scott:
Well yeah, so there's there's some sort of whether it's tobacco leaf or you know whether you're mixing tobacco in with it, which I know some people--
Miranda:
Which is a spliff, well to me.
Scott:
European style. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, the Euro-- the Europeans definitely. And I don't know correct us if we're wrong, maybe they're not still doing that. It's been a while since I've...
Miranda:
Been to Europe?
Scott:
Gotten to get over to Europe, and join any of my friends for a puff but yeah, I know the first few times that I went to Amsterdam for sure. I was kind of and I was a cigarette smoker at the time but I was still surprised and kind of grossed out honestly like I don't know man, like the type of cannabis that we have available in these programs is so good and tastes so good.
Miranda:
Why would you put tobacco in it?
Scott:
And even the best tobacco and I, you know, maybe I'm making the cigar smokers angry now but it's still really not comparable to the flavors of cannabis.
Miranda:
Agreed.
Scott:
But yeah, so that's a blunt whether you're, you know, buy'n, buy'n...
Miranda:
A Backwoods?
Scott:
A Backwoods or Philly or Dutch or whatever, they're all blunts.
Miranda:
Yep, split it down the middle filling it with weed. It's a blunt.
Scott:
Next one, I guess is-
Miranda:
BONGS!
Scott:
Yeah. bongs your good old fashioned water pipe.
Miranda:
Yes.
Scott:
Right. So the purpose of a bong is to give you some filtration to run that smoke through a little bit of water.
Miranda:
So it cools the smoke.
Scott:
Like literally cools the smoke. So it's not as hot going into your lungs, but also filters out a little bit of, you know, tar and yeah, non desirables that come from burning plant matter.
Miranda:
Yeah. And also the really nice thing about most bongs is that they come with an ice chamber, which cools that smoke down even more, which leads to an even smoother hit. Yeah, I feel like and to me, it's a really great medicating device.
Scott:
I was just taking some ice hits the other day...
Miranda:
Because you get a bong hit. You're not long for this world.
Scott:
Tends to be a high impact delivery method for sure.
Miranda:
I don't know anybody who's smoking like a sativa out of a bong, do you?
Scott:
Well, I was taking some hits of some Gelato Cake the other day 1% limonene.
Miranda:
So kind of, sorta, that's a hybrid to me like I'm talking like a sativa!
Scott:
Everything's a hybrid.
Miranda:
Yes, everything is a hybrid.
Scott:
People dab straight sativa concentrates.
Miranda:
It's true. I do it. Yeah.
Scott:
But yeah, so bowl.
Miranda:
A bowl is a waterless bong.
Scott:
Yeah, a pipe. Yeah. Yeah, anything from you know, your your corncob to you know, your little-
Miranda:
One hitter-
Scott:
Stone. You know, sometimes it's got a carb on the side of it where you have to hold down for you know, to restrict the airflow, so it pulls through. Sometimes it's just a straight spoon. Yeah. But yeah, any type of marijuana pipe, cannabis pipe is typically referred to as a bowl.
Miranda:
You generally don't want to buy a bowl that's made out of wood either. corncob pipes are generally disposable in that sense.
Scott:
I personally glass-
Miranda:
Glass is the way to go.
Scott:
I think mainly, you know, even metal it's just not...
Miranda:
Do you remember those?
Scott:
Yeah, well, I still I still know people that use and when we don't have that on here but dugout...
Miranda:
I still have an old dugout upstairs.
Scott:
The old the one that looks like a cigarette?
Miranda:
Yeah, it's one of those. Yeah. So a dugout. Just so we'll get this out of the way is technically a bowl but also a one hitter. It's meant to hold a very small amount of cannabis and generally very discreetly, generally comes in a wooden container with a little slide. So you can pack your cannabis on one side and your one hitter on the other. You essentially just dip your one hitter in, get some weed on it. Light it up, smoke it, flick it out, put it back in, put it away.
Scott:
Yeah, it's been a long time. Yeah, but yeah, I'm a glass boy for sure.
Miranda:
For sure.
Scott:
Easier to clean. preserves the flavor. You're not tasting anything else. Yeah, speaking of what you're tasting, bud.
Miranda:
Bud...
Scott:
So, bud is literally you know at the bud of the flower right the chunk of cannabis is a bud so naturally the people that sell you those things are...
Miranda:
Budtenders!
Scott:
Right! Not the most creative thing that we named our can cannabis dispensary workers, but it makes sense everybody hears it and knows immediately what you mean. The person who's selling you your cannabis.
Miranda:
Mm hmm.
Scott:
So yeah, when it comes to your cannabis, what are they selling you right?
Miranda:
What are they? It's not just THC.
Scott:
Right, so cannabinoids that includes all of the psychoactive parts of the cannabis plant. So we're talking about THC, which is the primary one that most people are seeking out when they're using cannabis. And also the primary cannabinoids in the plant. But we're also talking about CBD-
Miranda:
CBG.
Scott:
CBG...
Scott & Miranda:
CBN.
Scott:
The different types of THC, you know, which obviously people have started hearing more about Delta 8, Delta 10 and things like that. But yeah, all of these different things are present in the plant. It's not just THC.
Miranda:
And every living thing has an endocannabinoid system, which is what your body has. That makes perfect sense, right? So yeah, and all of our endocannabinoid systems are completely different.
Scott:
Yes.
Miranda:
So, what makes me high will not necessarily make Scott high, or or vice versa-
Scott:
Or high in the same way.
Miranda:
Exactly right.
Scott:
But yeah, your endocannabinoid system runs throughout your entire body, basically, you know, there are receptors almost everywhere. So it's not just, you know, it's gonna make me sleepy, and it's gonna make me hungry. And it's, it does all of these different things throughout your body, depending on the cannabinoids that are present in, whatever delivery method that you're using. Yeah. So last week, one of the things that we talked about was caregiver, right. So caregiver is defined as a person who can buy medicine for you handle your meds, process meds for you in different ways. And as of last week, you know, I had mentioned I wasn't sure if other states had those types of programs and it looks like most do right. So if you're not in Maryland, but the thought of having a cannabis caregiver is something that interests you somebody that can kind of help guide you through or you know, make your journey easier for you or handle your meds in a way that you're not comfortable handling them. There more than likely is a caregiver program in your state. Check it out.
Miranda:
For sure. Um, let's see. Where are we concentrates? So concentrates are extracts from plant manner, manner? Matter.
Scott:
All plants matter.
Miranda:
Oh, all plants do matter. And it contains THC, CBD and a whole bunch of terpenes generally, depending on what you're getting with your concentrate, and they you'll usually see them in the Shatter batter, butter, wax, sugar, live resin, dry sift. The list goes on and on. And they're usually extracted via ethanol butane, co2, or dry sifting.
Scott:
Yep, any number of ways to process those But yeah, basically you're talking about the good stuff quote unquote, right? The the stuff that interacts with that endocannabinoid system we were just talking about the THC, the Terps, etc. Without the plant matter, which is you know, quote unquote, a cleaner way of, you know, getting your meds in a certain way. I guess it's debatable given, you know, depending on how it was extracted.
Miranda:
For sure.
Scott:
And some people are super snobby about the types of extractions that they're into, you know, some people are only into the live stuff or what have you. But yeah, basically concentrates, high test medicine.
Miranda:
Definitely 70, 70% or higher, is generally a test on a concentrate
Scott:
That that makes sense. That sounds about right.
Miranda:
Of THC.
Scott:
Yeah, sure. So another way to get your meds is through cones, right you'll hear us talking about cones sometimes when We talk about what we're smoking at any given time, just a pre rolled paper with a little filter on the bottom of it. You know, raw, vibes, blah, blah, blah. Any number of brands out there.
Miranda:
Pretty much every every paper company makes a cone. Yeah. As well as a rolling paper.
Scott:
Great for those of you who don't know how to roll, or haven't invested in a rolling machine for yourself, the lazy man's way or lazy persons way sorry. To, to roll yourself a spliff.
Miranda:
I'm definitely one of those lazy people.
Scott:
So one of the other questions we got this week was about how growers basically get the types of plants that they have, and you know, how the medicine that we have available is determined. Right, so that comes down to cultivars is one of the things that that comes down to and a cultivar is a strain that's been bred in house to specifically express different traits or, you know, other traits. So they're taking, you know, strains that they've already acquired through purchasing, licensing. There's different ways, yeah. That these grow houses kind of get their hands on their their initial supply. But then after that point, anything that comes out of that house usually is going to be developed in house by crossing different things back and forth.
Miranda:
I know Evermore does a lot of that.
Scott:
Yeah, ever more. And I mean, we're definitely starting to see here locally in Maryland Verano do a lot of that now with like...
Miranda:
Gas Powered Cake.
Scott:
Gas Powered Cake, G Nana, Thai G. Yeah, some really some really cool stuff that they've been doing. I mean, their whole G Series is-
Miranda:
A cross.
Scott:
Yeah. With the with the Jet Fuel, the G6. But yeah, so that's that's how we get what we get. Right. Some of it has just been brought to the state as the initial kind of, stock that a grower was allowed to open up with and purchased and license from wherever. And then the rest of it is developed...
Miranda:
In house.
Scott:
Through that grower and their, their in house expertise.
Miranda:
Let's see what's next.
Scott:
Cure, cure speaking of that expertise?
Miranda:
Yes, indeed. So the cure is how the flower is taken care of after it's taken off the plant. Which means a lot of things. Because generally it goes into a room, a dark, dark-
Scott:
Temperature controlled humidity controlled all that...
Miranda:
With lots of fans.
Scott:
So yeah, basically, you know, cured drying or controlled drying. Yeah, is what determines your cure. And curing Yeah, can can turn mediocre weed into better weed can turn very good weed into somewhat mediocre weed. Most definitely if it's not cured properly. Dabbing, right, we talked about concentrates.
Miranda:
Dabbing is what you do with the concentrate.
Scott:
That's just the term that's been developed to talk about, you know, using a dose of a concentrate, right. dose is another term you know, and basically, when you hear dose, of course, you know what you think it would be any specific amount of medicine.
Miranda:
We've also got decarb on the list, which is essentially if you're making at home edibles, you're gonna and you're using when you're starting with flower, you're going to have to decarb that flour, which means that you're going to heat it to I believe it's 180 degrees for about 15 minutes. That's what I've always decarbed mine.
Scott:
That sounds right but don't quote me um, I think it also depends on what you're doing it in right because you can use jars, Turkey bags...
Miranda:
Or a piece of aluminum foil with your with your cannabis in a toaster oven. Yeah. So yeah, do you decarb it it becomes nice and golden brown it releases all the cannabinoids and gets everything like working in the flower. So when you actually do put it into a processor to make oil or tincture, etc. You're going to get the full flower benefits.
Scott:
Yeah. Speaking of oils and tinctures right different delivery methods. Yeah. So we've talked about concentrates. We've talked about we haven't yet talked about flower.
Miranda:
But we did bud a little bit.
Scott:
Right. And also edibles now.
Miranda:
For sure.
Scott:
So obviously edibles any sort of ingested
and then-
Miranda:
Topicals, topical transdermals
Scott:
Transdermals, right and the difference between those two, a topical sits on top of the skin whereas a transdermal gets absorbed down into the bloodstream through right so I get topical will not fail a drug test for you but a transdermal...
Miranda:
Sure will
Scott:
Yeah. So yeah, different different delivery methods. suppositories are definitely something that we don't have available on the Maryland market. We do. We do.
Miranda
We do.
Scott:
We do?
Miranda:
We do. District Cannabis does sell suppositories.
Scott:
I totally forgot about that. Yeah, I have not seen those available in any of the dispensaries I go to.
Miranda:
I believe they're only available at their dispensary because I don't think that there's a big call in the Maryland market. I feel like that's sort of a a taboo way of medicating that we all haven't gotten our brains around for some reason. But if you've got lower back pain, to me, that would be the best way to hit it right on-
Scott:
Sure.
Miranda:
In that area. Or even for the ladies out there, cramps.
Scott:
Right. Ah, yeah, I can't speak to that personally, but something that I've heard from patients and friends alike over the years, for sure, definitely that cannabis suppositories absolutely are great for any sort of issues down there.
Miranda:
Or even like GI like gastrointestinal upset.
Scott:
Crohn's, I think is something else that I've heard suppositories absolutely are supposed to be good for. But yeah, so those are your delivery methods. entourage effect.
Miranda:
Oh, that is everything working together to get you to where you need to be medicated.
Scott:
All those cannabinoids that we talked about earlier, right? Not just high THC or high, you know, high CBD, something that's got a mix of all those different things, and also hopefully some Terps too.
Miranda:
Lots of Terps to go with it.
Scott:
Your grinder is going to be the thing that you use to you know,
Miranda:
Grind up your weed.
Scott:
Yeah, exactly. Just a little herb grinder. If you're that's that kind of opens up cracks open exposes all those different Terps. And those cannabinoids Yeah, that are trapped inside the structure of the bud. So that you're, you know, getting all the good stuff.
Miranda:
And I highly recommend if you're going to buy a grinder, you get a three chambered grinder, simply because at that point, you'll have your flower on top which you will grind the flower will sift through as the grinded flower, grinded? ground flower, I'm having a really hard time speaking today. Ground flower will sift through and then there will be a little screen at the very bottom of that which will sift off your Keif now we can talk about Keif.
Scott:
Yeah, keep is kind of a concentrate, right because it's a concentrated source of those cannabanoids. You know, you're again, removing or avoiding most of the plant material. So yeah, that's you know, you use Keefe in a number of ways you can sprinkle it on top of a bowl you can mix it in with some material that you pack it into a cone or roll it up in a joint.
Miranda:
If you're making dinner you can grease your pan with bacon grease and put a little Keif in there.
Scott:
You can absolutely use kief to make edibles too.
Miranda:
I've used it making gravy too.
Scott:
Make sense, yeah.
Miranda:
Sure complements the sage very nicely.
Scott:
I'm into it. Headshop we mentioned before that's the place where you go get all your fun cannabis stuff.
Miranda:
Sure.
Scott:
You know your pipes, your your bowls here bongs your whatever it is.
Miranda:
I feel like our oldest one is Karmic Connection, in Baltimore.
Scott:
You and I both grew up with Karmic, I'm sure they'll be happy to hear that we mentioned them. Yeah, I mean I've been going there since I was 18 years old.
Miranda:
I worked there!
Scott:
I totally forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, that's that's where you go to get all your things cannabis and usually, you know, stuff like incense and candles. You know, just stuff that's fun when you're high too.
Miranda:
Blacklight posters, drapery right all the things that you might need.
Scott:
Hybrid. So you're going to hear that term quite often because frankly, most cannabis is hybrid cannabis at this point.
Miranda:
Definitely.
Scott:
So that just means a little bit of both worlds, right? It's not a straight sativa it's not a straight indica. It's going to give you some of the effects from both types of cannabis basically.
Miranda:
Let's see, where are we hydro, hydroponic. You're talking about hydroponic weed. Yeah, so so no soil, right? It's just grown with with light and water.
Scott:
Yep. Pretty simple stuff. Yeah, some people are, you know, bio snobs meaning they only want you know, cannabis that was grown in dirt or substrate or what have you. But yeah, then other people will argue that, you know, hydro is the way to go.
Miranda:
Do you have any hydroponic growers in Maryland?
Scott:
Straight hydroponics? I don't know. It to be honest with you. I really don't know to be sure. That's that's something that we can look into for next time.
Miranda:
It seems like a really clean way to do things too. Because you can recycle the water as well. Yeah, but Scott:
I'm you know, I mean, at Sunmed saw they had a big huge-
Miranda:
Oh, yeah. They recycle their substrate.
Scott:
Well, and their water too. Yeah. So I don't think that's necessarily...
Miranda:
More environmentally impactful or not necessarily.
Scott:
Yeah, not necessarily. I don't know for sure. To be honest with you.
Miranda:
Neither of us are growers, so we don't know.
Scott:
But yeah, indica, obviously we just talked about, so that's going to be a plant that tends to do more of-
Miranda:
The sedating.
Scott:
Right. Relaxing, sedating, calming, calming, pain relief, sleep aid, appetite stimulant, although I don't know, I guess you could argue that either way.
Miranda:
It depends on the strain. Like I mean-
Scott:
It depends on the person-
Miranda:
And on the person for sure. And that and whether or not you know, where humulene sits in it all, we'll get back to humulene and terps later.
Scott:
Yeah, Landrace strain, I think we mentioned briefly last time. That just means that it comes from the Dutch word, I believe. Meaning original, so they're the strains that the oldest strains that we know about, right, we talked about how cannabis goes back 1000s of years. These are strains that we know come from a specific area we know the genetics of Yeah, the Acapulco Gold...
Miranda:
That's definitely a Landrace strain.
Scott:
Some of the Kushes from like the Himalayas and stuff like that. There's different Landrace strains.
Miranda:
For different countries all over the world.
Scott:
Yeah, all over the world. So yeah, you can you know, as we expose you to those strains as time goes on, we'll talk about that more.
Miranda:
I think one of the biggest ones in Maryland at least was Mag Landrace.
Scott:
Yeah. LARF.
Miranda:
Which I didn't know about until today.
Scott:
Yeah, mini buds, small buds basically just you know, kind of less mature parts of a plant. You'll see sometimes you know, dispensary or whatever, I'll have a deal on something and it'll be listed as mini buds or small buds. It's just not the big you know, the toppers.
Miranda:
Not the big chunky girls. Yeah. Yeah, live resin. So live resin is a concentrate. But it is made with flash frozen cannabis.
Scott:
Right. So the the cannabis is not dried at all. It is just frozen fresh and extracted fresh off the plant.
Miranda:
Mm hmm.
Scott:
So you're going to get like a super super usually-
Miranda:
Very Terpy.
Scott:
Yeah, usually high Terps big in flavor. You're-
Miranda:
Not super high in THC, necessarily.
Scott:
Not necessarily. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. But yeah, just I guess, in theory, kind of the closest to the natural expression of that plant that you're going to get other than smoking. Right the flower itself.
Miranda:
They usually smoke really smoothly too.
Scott:
Yeah, that's been my experience for sure. And there's lots of different way you know, there are different concentrates that you will see as live resin cartridges. Different things. But yeah, a really fresh and flavorful way to experience your cannabis.
Miranda:
Mm hmm.
Scott:
The munchies, I definitely have a little bit of the munchies coming on.
Miranda:
Should I have made that charcuterie platter?
Scott:
I regret it now. But you know, basically there are types of cannabis that will stimulate your appetite. And you make you hungry.
Miranda:
Yeah. particularly effective for people who are experiencing wasting syndrome, etc. Or people who just don't have an appetite because of stress and anxiety. So the munchies aren't necessarily a bad thing.
Scott:
No, for sure, yeah. There are definitely people that are seeking out that particular characteristic from their cannabis for sure. NORML.
Miranda:
NORML, NORML, is an advocacy group. So their big mission is to legalize federally.
Scott:
To put an end to cannabis prohibition. Right. So if you are interested in getting involved with changing the laws in regards to cannabis in your area, probably the first thing you should do is look up-
Miranda:
NORML
Scott:
NORML, in your state or wherever you are National Organization for the Reformation for for Reformation of Marijuana Laws. Yeah, yeah, I know we have a Maryland NORML. So I'm sure you have a NORML wherever you are, as well.
Miranda:
I believe there's at least one in every state.
Scott:
Yeah. And they can and probably probably outside of the US as well. I think they're outside the US.
Miranda:
Yeah, they were established in 1970. So they've been around and, and and pushing this for a long time. And they're a nonprofit.
Scott:
Yes, absolutely. Outdoor, right. So we talked about hydro, obviously hydro has grown indoors with a hydroponic system. Outdoor just means it's grown outside in the dirt with the sun. Yeah, still being given nutrients and pest control and all that good stuff to you know, create a high quality cannabis that you can enjoy that will test high and Terps and THC and all that good stuff. But grown outside.
Miranda:
Right. Proposition 215. It's the medical marijuana initiative, which was started in 1996. Not even that long ago.
Scott:
I mean, it was a long time ago, almost 30 years ago,
Miranda:
I still forget that the 90s already 10 years ago.
Scott:
Yeah. Yeah, so basically, the first you know, the reason I wanted to bring it up is because it was the first one and I don't think a lot of people realize how long legalization has been going on here in the United States. But Prop 215 was basically the first iteration the first you know, step towards this long road towards an end to prohibition. So, you know, tip tip our hat to the the OG's of the industry who helped us all get to where we are today where we can enjoy this beautiful medicine.
Miranda:
Speaking of terms, OG Yes. does not stand for ocean grown. It stands for original gangster. Yes. That's all I'm gonna say.
Scott:
Sure.
Miranda:
Because people are like, Oh, gee, what is that?
Scott:
Rig?
Miranda:
Yeah, that's what you smoke your concentrates out of.
Scott:
You do your dab from your rig of your concentrate.
Miranda:
Yeah.
Scott:
Right. So that can be something digital. Like a fancy pants, you know, Puffco or Pax or you know, terp pen, or what have you. Or just a simple you know-
Miranda:
Glass rig.
Scott:
Glass with a torch heating it up. The banger is, you know, the hitter piece for your rig that you heat up with the torch and then put your concentrate on to. Yeah.
Miranda:
Yeah, that's a pretty simple explanation for that. RSO, Richard Simpson oil. So it's full spectrum cannabis oil. It is the purest form of cannabis oil, I guess you could have, because it does have everything it has your terpenes it's, but it's still also has plant matter in it.
Scott:
Yeah, so a little bit of plant matter. And yeah, this is the you know, the famous story of the gentleman who cured himself of his skin cancer by, you know, studying which stains had these specific properties and you know, how to process them in such a way to kind of concentrate and amplify those properties and, yeah, really easy way to make edibles.
Miranda:
Definitely.
Scott:
If you're if you're not opposed to a little bit of that plant taste, because it's definitely going to be present if you make your edibles with RSO.
Miranda:
Unless you're using Dark Chocolate. I feel like there are certain edibles on the market. I don't know if we want to mention brand names that use RSO, Evermore makes discos that have been, that are RSO based. Now they're on the market 10 milligrams dark chocolate. And they're, It's good medicine.
Scott:
Personally, I don't notice the flavor there.
Miranda:
I don't either.
Scott:
I know a lot of people who still do.
Miranda:
I think it's worse with the gummies.
Scott:
I, well, I definitely thought it's worse with the gummies. I haven't had the regular Discos in a while but and worse is relative term because I know people who love the Disco's.
Miranda:
Right? I mean, I love the effects of the Disco's but... the flavor...
Scott:
I love the flavor the chocolate discos. Yeah, they don't bother me at all, but I still know people who say they can taste the medicine.
Miranda:
Really?
Scott:
I personally, it is medicine. So I mind if I can taste it a little bit because it still tastes better than medicine.
Miranda:
Yes. Liquid Benadryl.
Scott:
But that's just me. Sativa, right, we talked about indica before being the more relaxing the more sedating. So sativa is obviously kind of on the opposite end of the spectrum.
Miranda:
Yeah, she's definitely going to have your high pinenes, your high limonene, high terpinolene. Spindly leaves.
Scott:
Generally, tends to be a thinner and thinner kind of sparser leaf plants. Yeah. Which is why you don't see as many sativas on the market because the growers don't get as much from each sativa as they do from each indica plant so well-
Miranda:
They're fluffy buds. I feel like they're super fluffy. spindly buds.
Scott:
Yeah, they tend to be fluffier buds. You know, I also think some of that has to do with demand though, right? I think more people are looking for more of a relaxing sedating...
Miranda:
Oh definitely.
Scott:
Effect from cannabis than are looking for a energizing focusing effect necessarily. I feel like a lot of people don't even know that those effects are possible, personally, but that's a different story, I suppose.
Miranda:
Yeah.
Scott:
Shake. So shakes just going to be like looser buds or sometimes actual ground up stuff. It just depends on the company, to to a little degree to what they mean by shake. But generally, if you hear shake you're going to think of not necessarily, you know, those big colas, the big buds that we were talking about before.
Miranda:
But also not necessarily trim.
Scott:
Right? Yeah, sure trim can then have some stems. Some more leaves-
Miranda:
A lot of kief.
Scott:
Sometimes a lot of keif. Yeah, depends on the strain. Really? Yeah. But yeah, fan leaves, sugar leaves, kind of a mixed bag of all of it. Yeah, the stuff that they couldn't sell you as buds or even shake is then trim.
Miranda:
Shake, you can still smoke, trim, You can still smoke it, but it's better for cooking.
Scott:
Yeah, it'd be better to process trim, or you're gonna get more bang for your buck. Or a better experience out of that.
Miranda:
But your mileage may vary.
Scott:
Yeah, that's true. And it just depends on where you are and what they're calling trim or shake for sure.
Miranda:
Yeah.
Scott:
Terps.
Miranda:
Oh, do we want to get into that? We want to get into that right now or do we want to power on the tinctures and wrap it up with Terps?
Scott:
Okay, we can do that. Sure. So tincture? Yeah, we we did not mention as a delivery method or maybe we did briefly but a tincture is going to be either an alcohol or a oil based extraction method. And the benefits of tinctures and my opinion tend to be that super discreet. You can use them in a lot of different ways. You can use them to dose food or a beverage. You know if you're out in a social situation where other people are drinking, you can put a couple of drops a tincture and a glass with some ice and some fizzy water.
Miranda:
For sure.
Scott:
And everybody thinks you're having a cocktail right now. And you're just sipping on your your cannabis relaxer.
Miranda:
Your cannabis juice.
Scott:
So yeah, I like tinctures a lot. You can also put tinctures-
Miranda:
Sublingually.
Scott:
Yeah. Which is hold it under your tongue for anywhere between....
Miranda:
As long as you can, in my personal experience.
Miranda:
I think you know you want to do it for at least 30 to 60 seconds to get the best effect. And you're going to get you know rather than it going down into your digestive system and starting to break down that way. It'll just get right in your bloodstream. Through underneath your tongue.
Miranda:
Let's talk about trichomes, real quick.
Scott:
Trichomes are the parts of the plant that contain most of those cannabinoids that we talked about earlier?
Miranda:
Yep. And if you look at a cannabis flower under a microscope, you're going to see these like, juicy, Bubbles of deliciousness.
Scott:
They almost look like antenna now kind of coming off. Not the hairs not like the orange hairs that you see. But you'll usually see tray comes coming off. But yeah, the different little almost like alien fingers or...
Miranda:
Yeah, like frog fingers.
Scott:
That's also part of how you know when a plant is ready to harvest and when it is cured properly. There are lots of different things you can tell by looking at the trichomes on a plant closely.
Miranda:
Yes, and even from far away if your bud is super frosty. That's gonna be the trichomes.
Scott:
Yeah, presence of lots of trichomes means presence of lots of cannabinoids. So when you hear 30% THC, that literally means that 30% of that one gram of flower, is it no THC is that psychoactive? You know, chemical that you're looking for. That's going to give you that intoxicated relaxed feeling, you know, and then the rest of the plant is going to be made up of Terps and whatever else and then actual plant matter. But yeah.
Miranda:
Wraps-
Scott:
Wraps, so yeah, any type of-
Miranda:
Non tobacco wrap-
Scott:
I feel like they can be, yeah.
Miranda:
But you could get hemp wraps, and there's all sorts of different things that they're made out of now.
Scott:
Yeah.
Miranda:
So it's not just a tobacco wrap anymore.
Scott:
Yeah, just some sort of thing to wrap up your cannabis and to create some sort of, you know, smoking option for you.
Miranda:
Yeah. So as we hinted at, on Instagram and a bunch of other places, Scott will not be taking a tolerance break this week (laughing)but will be talking about a tolerance break.
Scott:
Just mentioning, a tolerance break is exactly what, it sounds like taking a break from the usage of your cannabis to help control the effects and the amount that it has, or the the amount that it takes to get the effects that you need. That's the definition of tolerance, how much of something it takes, and how strong of a dose of something you need to take to get the effects that you want. So just like you're familiar with an alcohol tolerance, cannabis is no different, right? So at times, you may want to, not everybody does, or needs to take breaks to help regulate the effects that cannabis has on your body. I've done tolerance breaks for as little as two or three days. And there's plenty of evidence that suggests that that's plenty effective. I've also done tolerance breaks for as long as a month or two weeks. It really just depends on how much I think my tolerance is out of whack of where I want it to be. Right. And I know you say...
Miranda:
I've never taken a tolerance break.
Scott:
Yeah.
Miranda:
And I think it's just because I know where my levels need to be. And I'm, I'm sure of it. It's I mean, I know my you know, I don't think I've used anything higher than a 10 milligram of an edible in about a year. And I only use my concentrates when I'm having really bad pain days. So otherwise, I'm just smoking a bowl or a joint to deal with stress or anxiety or any little, you know, old injury that might just be annoyed that day. But if it's like a bad day like today, tonight, I'm definitely going to bed with the Puffco. But that's I just keep my my tolerance super in check.
Scott:
Yeah. And but that is that is you, managing your tolerance.
Miranda:
Right.
Scott:
Just not doing it with breaks, right. You're just maybe a little more careful and knowledgeable about, you know, and that's we talked about the journals last week. That's a way to do that. You know, we talked about the apps that are available now that you can use to track your usage and the effects that you feel. You know, speaking of the effects that you feel the word psychoactive.
Miranda:
Yes. Psychoactive versus intoxication.
Scott:
Right, so I feel like we talk about things like the lesser cannabinoids, CBD, CBG, CBN, as non psychoactive when they still are. They're just not intoxicating. You know, CBD definitely can have calming effects. It definitely can change the way that you perceive or interact with your environment, or with your body at the very least. So just, you know, just be aware when you hear that something isn't psychoactive, sometimes really what they mean is, it's not going to make you feel high, but it still make you feel different. Yeah, it might still make you or help you feel, you know, happier, less stress, less anxiety, you know, whatever it may be, you know, it will have or it can have those effects still.
Miranda:
Yeah, definitely. Yes.
Scott:
So, Terps.
Miranda:
Terps, let's move on down to terps.
Scott:
Right, because I know we got that from quite a few people. It's something that you'll hear us talk about often. I think we both care just as much if not more about the Terps that are present in the products that we buy than we do the THC level, for the most part.
Miranda:
Oh, definitely. I don't shop THC levels at all. I want there to be a lot of Terps in my medicine, and that's just because I get more benefits from a higher terp content than I do from a higher THC content. But again, that's my endocannabinoid system, not necessarily yours. The most prevalent terpene in all this is myrcene.
Scott:
Right? Yeah. myrcene is probably as a budtender, the thing that most of your patients are looking for.
And, and myrcene is, I like to refer to it as the hammer over the back of the head, right? If that's what you're looking for, if you're looking for that thing to knock out your pain to help you sleep to you know, just calm you. Yeah, it's that it's the heavy hitter. Yeah, of the of the Terps.
Miranda:
Yeah, and actually, they recommend, I've read on several different platforms that if you eat a mango 15 minutes before you smoke a heavy myrcene strain that your effects will be enhanced.
Scott:
That totally makes sense, right?
Miranda:
Because mangoes contain a ton of myrcene.
Scott:
I've read, you know, a long time ago in regards to vitamins that one of the main things with vitamins is it doesn't matter how many milligrams of this are that that you're taking because there are other things that are active in the plants that contain those things that interact with them. So it makes sense that if you eat something that's got a lot of myrcene and there are probably other things in that mango that boost the myrcene up.
Miranda:
I think it increases absorption rate.
Scott:
Okay.
Miranda:
I think that's what the overwhelming research, stated in data.
Scott:
I mean, it makes sense, right? Your endocannabinoid system is getting it from both your digestive system and-
Miranda:
And your lungs-
Scott:
And your lungs and your bloodstream that way.
Miranda:
It's pretty earthy and musky. And can also be kind of clovey. Yeah,and warm smelling.
Scott:
We talked about that Runtz last week. Yeah, kind of musky. Right. And myrcene was the highest terpene in that. Yeah, definitely gonna give you that dank. Smell.
Miranda:
I think let's see. Afghan, Afghani strains are really high myrcene. I know we get Ray Charles and Maryland.
Scott:
Yeah, Ray Charles I've still got a little bit of a Charles at 2.0 mercyene in that I use it you know, there's nights when you wake up and you just cannot get back to sleep. Grind up a little .2, .3 of Ray Charles put it in the bowl, and puff puff. Sleep.
Miranda:
Puff, puff, sleep is exactly what myrcene should be doing for you.
Scott:
Yeah.
Miranda:
Yeah. Also great for anxiety.
Scott:
Yeah, it's just gonna It's all all those super chill out you know couch lock. That's that's what's gonna give you couch lock Yeah, seeing if that's what you want. If you if you just want to sit down and chill out. Miss myrcene is the girl that you want to talk to. For sure.
Miranda:
The second most abundant is limonene which is going to give you that nice citrusy, fresh smell.
Scott:
Yeah, lemons, limes. Grapefruit...
Miranda:
Oranges...
Scott:
Yeah, you know, I described as bright.
Miranda:
Mm hmm.
Scott:
You know, it's going to be fresh, you know, a little bit gassy sometimes You know, tickle your nose a little bit when you put your nose in the bag, or in the jar, hopefully if it's in glass. Yeah, one of my favorites for sure. Like I said that that Gelato Cake that I've got right now 1% limonene that's that's your mood boost in the middle of the day.
Miranda:
Gas Powered Cake, yeah, 1.11% Oh!
Scott:
Yeah. Yeah.
Miranda:
Smile nice!
Scott:
And bright middle of the day, you know, perk ya back up when you're starting to get tired or you're starting to feel the aches and the creeks or what have you. For sure. I love her.
Miranda:
She definitely reduces stress. And yeah, mood booster. Found in Sour Diesel. Durbin Poison, Jack Herer.
Scott:
Yeah. What else? Locally with high limonene? Yes, lemon stuff, right. Lemon Skunk, Lemon Merangue, Lemon...
Miranda:
Anything that has the word lemon or sour in the name is pretty much going to be a high limonene strain. But also some of the gelato strains. Lots of limonene.
Scott:
Yeah, like I said that Gelato Cake, like Green Gelato.
Miranda:
Wedding Cake.
Scott:
Some of the cakes for sure. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna make your stuff taste good. Smell good. Taste good.
Miranda:
And make you feel good.
Scott:
Yeah.
Miranda:
Linalool is our next one.
Scott:
We talked about her last week. Right?
Miranda:
I feel like I'm just starting to see lots more of her flower.
Scott:
I can't wait. Yeah, I love it.
Miranda:
Because the Moon Boots that I had last week had a ridiculous amount, of linalool.
Scott:
And that Gelato Cake had 2.5 Terps I think all together and I think the linalool on that's like .4%.
Miranda:
So beautiful.
Scott:
Yeah, so yes, that's gonna be your your lavender. Right? You're nice chill out relaxation, super calming...
Miranda:
A strong sedative. It's even I think, I believe it's a stronger sedative than myrcene. But working in conjunction with myrcene.
Scott:
Right.
Miranda:
It's a super knockout.
Scott:
Yeah, well, that's I mean, you know, we talk about indica versus sativa. The three Terps that I think of when I think of an indica are caryophyllene. Which we'll get to get to. Yeah. linalool, and myrcene.
Miranda:
Yeah.
Scott:
And those are the three that are going to give you that anti inflammation, that sleep aid, you know, all of that good stuff. To make you feel light and floaty and pain free and relaxed. And they all work together.
Miranda:
Right.
Scott:
You know, if you want a big indica strain, you want to look for the three of those things together. In my opinion. That's what I'm going to guide you to. That's what my body wants. That's going to just chill me out and make me feel great.
Miranda:
And the next one is beta caryophyllene.
Scott:
Yeah!
Miranda:
She's super peppery. So when you smell that black pepper or like a oregano, basil, scent that that I hesitate to use cat piss. But to me, that's what beta caryophyllene smells like.
Scott:
That's okay. There are people there are people who get that and people who don't. There are people who are gonna hear that and go, yes. And people who are going to hear you say that go, ew.
Miranda:
Yeah, I mean, I remember early on when I was packing, but at one point, there was a really high beta caryophyllene strain that I was packing. I was just like, Oh my god. Smells like a litter box. I can't do this. I mean, a powered through and it's it was actually really, really, I think it was an Ice Cream Cake.
Scott:
I was gonna say yeah, the cake stranes. Definitely. If you're looking for a lot of caryophyllene which to me is when I'm looking for pain relief. Ray, you were just talking about the Moon Boots. Verano came out with the Snow Gloves at the same time, which apparently is Gary Payton.
Miranda:
Oh, interesting.
Scott:
But it's what people were saying. I don't know.
Miranda:
Oh!
Scott:
But whatever it is, she was not super high in THC, I think like 24%. But the beta caryophyllene was somewhere around 1.3%, I believe is 1.4% or something like that. And it was like instantaneous pain relief. You know, the literally it within three to five minutes of taking the first hit of it. Like I felt phenomenal.
Miranda:
That's wonderful.
Scott:
And so you know, like I said, I tell people that myrcene is the hammer over the back of the head. I tell people that beta caryophyllene is like the cloud underneath you making you feel-
Miranda:
Nice, warm blanket.
Scott:
Floaty, you know, and light. Yeah.
Miranda:
There's also a bunch of studies, interestingly enough that say that it reduces voluntary intake of alcohol.
Scott:
Okay.
Miranda:
So if like that's something that you're trying, you're doing dry January. Maybe you want to smoke a high beta caryophellene strain.
Scott:
Okay.
Miranda:
If you're feeling the temptation. Yeah, I don't know. That's just, it was a weird...
Scott:
I mean, using cannabis in general makes me want to drink less.
Miranda:
Same.
Scott:
Personally, but yeah, I that's, that's good to know.
Miranda:
Yeah and apparently, it helps with treating withdrawal symptoms from alcohol as well. Which...
Scott:
Fantastic.
Miranda:
Yeah, it's but most mostly common in the Skywalkers, your Super Silver Haze.
Scott:
I love Super Silver Haze. I haven't seen it for a minute now.
Miranda:
For me beta caryophyllene is like daytime pain medicine.
Scott:
Right.
Miranda:
Because it doesn't knock me out.
Scott:
Right floaty without being oppressive or heavy.
Miranda:
So the next we have alpha pinene and beta pinene, which is Scott would venture to take that one on because she is not my friend.
Scott:
Yeah, just as it sounds, the pinenes are. So just as it sounds right, pining, so it's gonna smell and taste piney. If you smell something that smells like a Christmas tree to you, it's probably got a lot of pinene. And so pinene is going to be associated, most for me personally with focus. And kind of kinetic energy as well, like the, you know, being up and moving. I want a strain that's got a lot of pinene personally, so I associated more with sativa stuff. But you were saying that there's, you know, there's research on the other side of the fence for pinene too.
Miranda:
Yeah, I mean absolutely, um, it's actually helpful for you to get sustained sleep. So I'm guessing there's a low enough amount of pinene in a situation? I'm not sure if it's, if it's based on the amount of pinene and a strain. Or that that wasn't clear to me on all of the stuff that I've been all, all of the books that I've read, have never said anything about it.
Scott:
Well, it's one of the least present Terps in general anyway. So, you know, it's very rare to find a strain that's high in pinene. But yeah, so I've, you know, I think a lot of people associate whether they've just been told to or not associate pinene with anxiety for whatever reason, I personally have not experienced that.
Miranda:
I think it's the focus that comes along with pinene that brings on the anxiety in people.
Scott:
Right, they get trapped in their own thoughts, overanalyze things, what have you.
Miranda:
That's what happens to me.
Scott:
Yeah. And I've definitely you know, I think we talked about briefly last week, most of the situations I've had like that, personally, I find come from high THC level more than any particular terp, or level of any particular terp for me personally.
Miranda:
But again, you know, everybody's different.
Scott:
Yes, super personal. You know, the way your body reacts to strain is going to be different than the way my body reacts to a strain. So, you know, you might love it, you might hate it, but just important to know that that's what it is and what it does.
Miranda:
And it's a bronchial dilator.
Scott:
Yes. Right. So if you know a strain that's high in pinene-
Miranda:
It's going to make you cough.
Scott:
That's goin that's going to make you makes you cough a ton she could be high in pinene. But again, like that's, that's something that I find that I feel like I cough more with the terpwe're going to talk about next. talk about nex, terpinolene.
Miranda:
Yeah. Which to me, just makes me giggly and kind of stupid and relaxed.
Scott:
Definitely makes me giggly, but I tend to experience it in like, what I associate with gassy strains. And a lot of those are kind of the like, tickle the back of my throat kind of, I don't know.
Miranda:
Like, like in Strawberry Cough has a ton of terpinolene and a generally and it also has a really high pinene content. So um, yeah, different strains and just the different makeups of those strains will give you those things where you're going to be coughing or not coughing or giggly, not giggly.
Scott:
What else is terpenoline in, like naturally? I mean, not naturally, in other things besides cannabis. We talked about right the myrcene present and mangoes. And, you know, obviously limonene being present like citrus and linalool being present in lavender.
Miranda:
So, it's found in lilacs.
Scott:
Okay.
Miranda:
Which will give you that floral taste in cannabis, which I'm super familiar with. Nutmeg, cumin, and apples.
Scott:
Interesting. Okay. So yeah, there's your general overview of Terps. Right.
Miranda:
Oh, and let me just chime back in with humulene. Real quick, because I mentioned humulene earlier.
Scott:
Yeah. And that's not by any means and extensive list of terpenes
Miranda:
Oh, no.
Scott:
That is just the six that are most commonly or most abundantly found in cannabis.
Miranda:
There are thousands.
Scott:
So yeah, you'll tend to but yeah, naridol and humulene--
Miranda:
--and terpeniol. There's another term. There's, yeah, [whispers] there's a lot of them.
Scott:
So check it out, you know, after you medicate, and you're feeling focused, and want to dig into a subject, Google terpenes and do some reading.
Miranda:
Yeah.
Scott:
Yeah, you know, that's, like I said, the purpose of a journal is to keep track of what individual Terps do for you, whether it's just taking a quick snapshot of a label, or writing down the Terps that are present, and then writing down the effects that that you felt, or the way that it tasted or the way that it smelled, or all of the above, you know, will help guide you in your future purchases of your medicine to avoid things that you don't like and go for things thatyou do.
Miranda:
Mm hmm. So, humulene, I guess is the seventh most sought after, I've had questions about humulene the entire time in the cannabis industry. It's actually alpha caryophyllene.
Scott:
Okay.
Miranda:
Which is really funny to me. Um, so yeah, beta caryophalene and alpha caryophylene. I'm not trying to confuse anybody. What I'm trying to say is humulene is thought to promote appetite suppressing effects.
Scott:
Right.
Miranda:
So, if you're one of those people who doesn't want the munchies, you want to look for something that's high in humulene If you're looking for something that's going to make you hungry, you don't want a high humulene number and you want a higher myrcene number.
Scott:
Right, so basically, you know, in order to be an informed cannabis consumer, you know, do a little bit of reading and research on these things and you know, use that to help guide if you're lucky enough to be in a state or country where you get that kind of information use that to guide your your purchasing process you know, talk to your budtender and tell them hey, you know, I'm looking for something that's going to reduce anxiety can you help me find something that's high and you know, myrcene and and caryophylene...
Miranda:
CBD.
Scott:
Right, yeah something.
Miranda:
Yeah.
Scott:
The entourage effect is something that we didn't talk about but-
Miranda:
You're right.
Scott:
You know, products that specifically have a higher amount of CBD to go with that THC, that you get the effects of both and it is national CBD month.
Miranda:
It is, yeah, Happy National CBD Month.
Scott:
Happy National CBD month to you. I think we both enjoy the use of CBD products on a regular basis to go along with and sometimes in place of when I'm doing that tolerance break stuff, my THC. But yeah, so on the next episode, we're going to have our next guest or our first guest, I should say!
Miranda:
Yeah.
Scott:
And we're hoping to get somebody from the CBD industry to come and talk about because that's something we got a couple different questions on this week as well. Definitely. Both in regards to tolerance breaks and in regards to entourage effect products, products that are one to one like THC to CBD or sometimes much greater CBD or much greater THC, depending on you know what kind of effect you're looking for.
Miranda:
Or what your tolerance is.
Scott:
Exactly, yeah. But we'll get we'll get into more of the specific effects of cannabinoids other than THC with somebody from that industry.
Miranda:
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. That'd be a lot of fun.
But yeah, in the meantime, make sure you give us a like and subscribe. Follow on all the different stuff. You can find me @YourCannabisCoach on Twitter, Instagram.
Miranda:
And you can find me @Our.Lady.of.Maryjane on Instagram, on Twitter. All those things. Follow us. Like us. And you can also find us that The Heady Conversations on all of those things as well.
Scott:
And, www.theheadyconversations.com and theheadyconversations@gmail.com. If you want to shoot us an email, you know, please keep the questions and comments coming in. If we didn't get to your thing this week, we will definitely get to it, you know--
Miranda:
Shortly.
Scott:
In the coming weeks, or on the website or the blog, or what have you. We're doing research and looking things up and super stoked about all of it. Thank you so much again for all of your support. And yeah, we can't wait to talk to you again.
Miranda:
Thank you guys so much. Have a great week and we will see you next time! BESOS!
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